10 Reasons Why Fable 2 Sucks
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This weekend a product got me back in to blogging, but for all the wrong reasons. I had been looking forward to playing Fable 2 and really getting back to my RPG routes, I had this amazing vision of the next generation of Oblivion. In fact for all the sales hype from Peter Molyneux you would have believed we were witnessing the dawn of a new age in gaming, but as has been the case in recent years his claims have again proved to be completely unfounded.
So after putting a lot of my time into playing this game, (and I only continued as all the reviews said it got better as you went along). I felt I needed to put down in writing what I think really sucks.
1. Disjointed World
The world in general feels very disjointed - maybe because there are load screens (how 80’s is that?) but the world does not feel well put together and at no point during playing it did I feel well orientated, e.g. if I go north I find this, or go east a bit and I will find a castle. Again this may be because in Fable you always follow a path and cannot go cross country.
2. Repetition Makes Good Gameplay?
Am I really expected to sit in front of a swinging meter that I have to press a single button to stop to simulate me fashioning a sword? So I get to be a level 3 blacksmith (after a good 30 minutes of MINDLESS boredom) - and I have made a decent amount of cash (totally unbalanced amount in comparison to what you get from quests at the stage I was in the game.) - I get to another town and I am asked if I want to do the same for cutting logs? I laughed myself silly.
It is not even as if I get a special weapon for doing this? or that what I am making goes into the stores of the blacksmith, it really feels pointless.
3. No Mini Map
I watched a few interviews in which Mr M ranted about the virtues of not having a mini-map and that mainstream players did not understand them, I think this is a complete and utter lie, they did it because each area is small and a mini-map would have shown that off badly. The map on the pause page is static and is really hard to navigate, so if I cannot work it out, how is a mainstream player going to?
4. Missions repetitive
Apart from the core storyline the side missions are all really simplistic and repetitive, e.g. rescue the slaves, kill the robbers. And because you can just skip to a region you lose sense of location never have any adventures along the way, this is partly responsible for why the game is over in such short order (12 hours or less)
5. Morale decisions have no meaning
How over hyped was this again? The decisions like first time round are purely black and white, save the slaves or resell them to some else. The game has no conversation trees so all you get is yes/no decisions to make along the way and during any one quest you have to make only a few decisions and none feel like they have had any long term effect.
6. The Golden trail of Dispair
In a game like Oblivion when you get given a quest you can go around and talk to anyone most of the time they will have something useful to say to assist in the completion of the quest. The ‘follow the golden trail’ totally destroys any feeling of adventure - as you just follow the trail to the next objective - you are never encouraged along the way to interact with anyone else.
7. Dog sucks
How much was this dog over hyped? It has no gameplay value whatsoever, in fact its core ability of helping you find things actually contributes to Fables woes, and walking along a path seeing a big chest on the path and your dog runs up to it with a ‘treasure’ icon above its head is just stupid, like ‘I can bloody see the chest you idiot’. (oh and btw - chests on paths for no reason? other than the designers couldnt think of anywhere else to put them.)
Never did he actually help in any fighting that was useful (and I levelled him up a lot) - but he really was just a pain.
8. Economy, What Economy?
Much has also been made of the ability to buy every building in the world and other monetary elements that make you feel that the world has a true economy. I have really no idea if the claims of market economy are true because the game was over before it began, by the time I was rich enough to get involved in understanding the -cough- ‘complexities’ of each towns economy I was basically at the end of the game. I was also meant to be able to make money by trading items between towns, but frankly the interface to buy stuff is clunky - and that most shops only ever sell ‘one’ of each thing meant the money could be made far easier using the mindnumbing blacksmithing / woodchopping / headbanging.
9. Gameplay Balance Terrible
About 6 hours into the game I managed to purchase a sword for about 15,000 gold which served me all the way to the end of the game, I never ever felt under real threat from any bad guys as I just spammed the spells, no mana? no gameplay. I also never got to level 5 spells and I really did not need them. The interface for selecting spells is just so simplistic to make it very boring indeed, again having the ability to constantly cast spells is fun for 10 minutes, but its like using a cheat code - its fun for a while and then you realise you have spoilt the feeling that you need to work at something to get stronger.
10. Terrible Ending
When they ending came my Wife turned to me (who happened to be watching at the time) and said ‘Is that it?’ - I sat in stunned silence, the final fight was beyond pathetic (I won’t -cough- spoilt it for you). And then I was made to make a single ‘moral’ decision that would affect what happened next, what was the point? I wasn’t going to play the game any further afterwards, and especially in my case the decision I made meant that everything in the world was practically worthless (spoiler warning: I got 1,000,000 gold - which meant I could buy anything which basically meant any further adventuring totally pointless, I could buy anything I wanted, including the castle. This also means that any further add-ons will be pointless)
Reviews
I really could go on, every aspect of the game falls well short of expectations and this comes back to one point, how the hell did this get all the great reviews? either Microsoft did amazing job on all the games reviewers or I am mistaken?
Funnily enough my wife started playing Oblivion a day after I finished Fable 2 (she watched me play Oblivion when I first got it when it was released and she was a massive fan of Morrowwind) - well she has been playing the game about 12 hours (time it takes to finish Fable 2) - and she has barely got out of the initial first story line!
Fallout 3 turns up in the post tomorrow (fingers crossed) - lets hope for something better…
If you disagree please leave a comment, or come give me abuse on twitter
Comment by Simon on 29 October 2008:
First off, well done for not being swept up in all the fable love and pointing out its faults. Having just completed the main quest myself and choosing the sacrifice option, i must say i too am dissappointed. Once again Peter Molyneux should stick to making a better game rather than spending all his time creating the biggest over-hype of the year.
Comment by philip on 29 October 2008:
#11: This ending up on Planet PHP
Comment by Jeff on 29 October 2008:
#7. I completely agree, like the golden trail the icons above the dogs head are so distracting that i wish i can turn them off. There has been a couple of times when i would hear my dog barking, and then turn to find him only to see some stupid icon above his head… If the dog gets your attention with barking… that’s ALL you need. When the dog finds a dig spot he runs right to it and then starts to dig… how exciting is that? No way to interact, why not have some kind of system to where you give your dog a “scent” and he has to sniff it out. I’m more disappointed for this one then the last.
#11. The animations and control… man it feels like you are walking around in Jello… its bad.
Comment by admin on 29 October 2008:
Jeff, point 11 - total agreement, so millions spent and they cannot even get the feet to stick the ground?? - from a technical stand-point (and I worked in the games industry for 10 years) this thing is pretty mid-tier stuff, frankly miles behind the engine for oblivion.
Point 12 - for me would be no armour? so you get about 10 different garments to wear and what do they give you? attractiveness?? - ok so for a bit of a laugh you get married, but again - where is the gameplay? I did have a chuckle when I married a whore tho
Comment by dude on 29 October 2008:
fable 2 is not much better than fable1; i think i might actually like fable1 better. repetitive pressing of the A button is so boring and that is what this game consists mostly of. I didn’t finish the game because it was so boring. Maybe i’d play more if they showed the sex scenes!
Comment by Turd on 30 October 2008:
I was absolutely amazed how short it was. Nothing was a challenge and I saw no upgrade in the good vs evil meter. The ending was terrible. I cussed the map the whole time. There was no sense in having clothing or barbershops because the clothing and hairstyles were so lame. And would it be so hard to add a little diversity in the people, the chicks were pretty much all the same.
I kept waiting for cut-scenes where years would pass so I could see how the the areas were changed by my decisions, nothing. And why did they not put in a stat for age, I thought that was a cool part of the first game.
I spent more time trying to keep a wife than playing the main storyline. The idea to have kids was neat but why not do more with it.
All in all I spit on this game, I should have saved my 60 bucks and just loaded fable 1 instead. All the hype and good reviews on this game just goes to show all the game critics are either bought out or just don’t know.
Comment by Plushie on 30 October 2008:
I really couldn’t agree more. I actually feel a bit guilty because I can forgive a game for its linear/boring(feels like a second job) gameplay if the story is good enough, which is why I loved your number ten. I was up late beating the game in preparation for the last boss. I figured, if the game is this easy at least the final boss will test the players, but I was sitting there in stunned silence just the same.
I’m not quite sure what Lionhead Studios was thinking besides making more money. The game is completely overhyped, as you stated very black and white and small. It’s so very small that by the time I got to the end I had to go look up a walkthrough to make sure that I was done.
Sadly, I had to look through the walkthrough because my game glitched out. It really is sad how lazy this was just shoved onto shelves. It only managed to reinforce my feelings of dissapointment when at the end of the game I chose love to have my family completely glitched with no way to fix them after reading solutions to this problem on various forums.
I hope people that read this understand it isn’t a small group of people being overly cynical, but people that aren’t complete fanboys to the Fable franchise to point out how very unfulfilling the game was. I really did enjoy the first game and had it not been for the “ending” that was tacked on at the end of the game I might have enjoyed this very short gaming experience, but so far all I can say is I will reserve judgement before I buy another Fable game.
Comment by Chris on 30 October 2008:
Agree with every one of your points, and I could easily add quite a few more. The gaming press is doing a huge disservice to readers and gamers by giving this game almost universally strong reviews. It is a deeply mediocre game. Sure, there are a handful of breakthroughs: your character’s appearance can change, you can buy any piece of real estate, and you can marry and have a family. Beyond that, though, I don’t see much to praise. I couldn’t believe how quickly I finished — and yes, I did many of the (boring, repetitive, simplistic) side quests along the way. The ending — as you say — was a huge letdown (”That’s it??? Just hold down “A” for a while??”). The graphics are third-rate or worse (Oblivion has better graphics and it’s more than two years old); the menu structure is awful; the much-hyped dog is pointless; the combat system is simplistic and requires nothing more than button mashing; the range of enemies is limited and exactly the same combat techniques work against almost all of them (just mash “X” or “B”); the gameworld is small, disjointed, and NOT open (you can’t wander around as you please); and above all, the level of immersion is extremely shallow — next to non-existent, really. I’d say anyone who really liked TES IV: Oblivion will be deeply disappointed by Fable II. Fable II reminded me mainly of Devil May Cry, but the combat system in the latter is better.
Comment by wtf316 on 30 October 2008:
The biggest choice you have in the game comes in the very beginning as a child, and that’s how you want Old Bowerstone to be decorated. Majority of the spells are technically the same thing, so there is no real reason to learn as many as possible. Not one heroic boss battle in this entire game. Collecting silver keys and shooting gargoyles becomes a chore, and the rewards do not add up. 20 keys in Fable I gave you a badass legendary weapon, where as in this game you receive an augmentation…wtf. The demon doors don’t even hand out good loot in this game. In cutscenes you feel helpless as your character just sits there while Lucien holds a pistol to your head and pulls the trigger.
This game has so may bugs as well. You can exploit experience points like it’s going out of style. And then there’s the ending…complete rubbish. How is this game receiving good reviews?
Comment by joe on 30 October 2008:
fable 2 sucked.
Comment by joe on 30 October 2008:
Seriously - why was there so much hype. I never played Fable, but I had heard such great things - I expected complex moral decisions like Mass Effect, sandbox environment like Oblivion and vibrant world with interaction.
Instead, all I can do is fart, laugh or belch. The player has no attachment to the world. The quest is barely 11 hours. The magic - what’s the point in having so many spells when you can only really use one or two. The combat was simplistic. The dog pointless.
There were some good moments - I do not want to give it away - but generally the game lacked substance and depth.
I have a SDTV - so I never really focus on the graphics and focus on the gameplay. Thats’ why I disliked Assasin’s Creed so much - because it was so reptitive. Fable felt the same.
So thats Fable 2, the Force and Assasin’s Creed that was dissapointing :(.
Comment by laZee on 30 October 2008:
@ Point 1, Loading Screens: 80s? I think they are still quite usual. Games without loading screens are still exceptional imho.
Comment by admin on 30 October 2008:
LaZee, Oblivion had very few loading screens, when walking around the vast countryside it never required a load, Fable 2 reloaded between each segment and that really did not help with feeling that the world was consistent.
Comment by Jason Lefkowitz on 30 October 2008:
Disclaimer: I loved The Movies.
That being said, has Molyneux ever produced a game that lived up to its own hype?
Comment by grammar on 30 October 2008:
morale decisions? MORALE? More like moral.
Comment by Bob on 30 October 2008:
And why is this in your planet-php feed?
Comment by Monso on 30 October 2008:
Fable 2 is basically Fable 1, with no minimap, a screwed up spell-casting system and with a screwed up running animation. And of course a quest system that requires you to literally follow a path.
I am extremely, extremely dissapointed.
Comment by admin on 30 October 2008:
Bob, apologies I do tend to blog a lot about PHP - but on this instance I went off on a tangent
- need to look at how to only supply certain posts to them.
Comment by sam on 30 October 2008:
Just get over the fact that oblivion is the best game ever and no game will ever come close to its awesome-ness, that doesn’t make fable 2 and bad game..it makes it a good game thats no where as good as oblivion.
Comment by TMacs on 30 October 2008:
You said it well… huge let down.
100% lies from PM and Lionhead. Bad bad business ftw…
Lionhead must be full corrupt / evil
Comment by lorenzo on 30 October 2008:
LIONhead said you could make a character
start from nothing make your own city
the back of the game says 10 times bigger than the original fable
what’s not tru
waiting 1 year for this game and just playd 6 days then sold it again
very dissapointing
Comment by David on 30 October 2008:
wow, i am more disappointed in Fable 2 then i was when GTA4, and both are terrible sequels….tisk tisk
Comment by Moe on 31 October 2008:
Man I rented the game and I still want my money back. This game has WORSE graphics then fable 1, a worse environment, less character customization, fucked combat system. Everything is bad, this was the only video game Ive looked forward to in the last 2 years and it finally came and it blows so hard.
Fable 1 was phenomenal for its time I mean it was a game for the first xbox and in three years and a new platform they made it worse. Jesus…
Comment by Nervouswreck on 31 October 2008:
Wow, I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume all these comments were left by “hardcore” Gamers, which are not really a big lionhead demographic. The point of Fable 2, like other lionhead projects is to challenge traditional conventions in gaming. And for the casual gamer like myself, It succeeds 110%.
Many people are making the parallel to Oblivion. Which isn’t a fair, Oblivion is only for gaming elite. It helped to have previous experience in elder scrolls. After the quick intro portion, the player is thrown into a skill rubric from hell with little feel behind the effectiveness of each skill so you choose blindly,I ended up with unplayable characters 3 times before I could defeat the first set of foes. after that, with all the onscreen garbage (a constant reminder of console game, instead of fantasy story) I spent 3 hours searching for the main quest, and after finally getting what felt like on track, some tiger doode pawned me for not paying him…
That was the first/last time I played Oblivion.
Fable 2 is rewarding, I can jump in and out of gameplay with little relearning curve (so the game doesn’t own my life), my little sister can play and be just as competitive with the simple interface, so we have fun and bond over that. The environments are beautiful, they but the oblivion fields of weeds to shame, and with little onscreen distraction, its easier to get into the world.
For the casual gamer, who may only make a couple free hours a week to devote to gameplay, fable 2 is the best way to spend your money.
Comment by slimcat007 on 31 October 2008:
I didn’t play the first fable so I don’t know anything about that, but I can say with a high level of certainty that this game is garbage. It looks like it was designed for 6 and 7 year olds. This should have exclusively been released on Wii.
Comment by EFIxMR on 31 October 2008:
This games is just too easy… At the end of the game where you make your moral decision, I thought I picked the wrong one because of the horribly disappointing ending I got. I searched online thinking I did something wrong, and it turns out all the choices are equally bad.
I think it’s sad how the best RPG’s I payed were back in 93′ playing Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI.
Where the story and gameplay had to be good because there was no graphics crutch to stand on.
Comment by Spfalk on 31 October 2008:
Well Nervouswreck, at least on Oblivion, one could change the difficulty, make it easier or harder. Not so with Fable 2. It had promise, and like the issues already stated above, all the numerous glitches and bugs really pushes it over the edge into oblivion. Poorly designed, poorly executed.
Comment by Headache10 on 31 October 2008:
After playing this game Peter Molyneux looks like this to me >:P.
He is a liar or just very stupid, he obviously doesn’t no what open world means.
multiplayer henchmen I mean cmon! is Peter’s team not smart enough to implement two hero characters,
jez! maybe we should both be henchmen, theres no armor so it doesnt really matter anyway,
plus with my level five area spells I destroy everything in the vicinity, and my henchmen buddy is still wondering what just happened.
The game basically has a TO BE CONTINUED ending
well guess what Peter, I aint buying your sucky 3rd game
FOOL ME ONCE, shame on you, FOOL ME TWICE, shame on me >:P
Comment by E-rock on 1 November 2008:
i waited …… and i waited ……. and then when it was out i had to wait an extra week fo a copy, and so i waited a little longer and finally i had it. i have never been so displeased with a game , i had more fun digging up my N64 and mario’ing it up again.
no real good/evil choices
horrible unconnecting landscapes
mindless side quests
and is that kriea from KOTOR 2?
Comment by gangles on 1 November 2008:
you all suck i have a blast playing fable 2 and i loved fable 1 too
Comment by Jankz on 1 November 2008:
Agree with OP. This game could have gone so far, but it only went towards a permament spot in my closet to dust.
Comment by Quincy on 1 November 2008:
YES! Finally, a site about why Fable II sucks. I realized it after the first night of playing it. Now that I have beat the game, I can say it really sucks. BAD. Like real bad. This game had so much hype and it prove to be a total let down.
For those of you thinking to buy this game, DON’T. It’s garbage. It is one of the worst RPGs that I have played in recent years.
Comment by Kid on 1 November 2008:
This game is only fun for teens. Im a teenager and i notice something that really pissed me off when u try to move ur wife it counts her as someone else and when ur wife divorses u sometime u get stuck with the house u 2 lived in. Its funner when u play it again and get everything right.Oh and one more thing at the end if u wait and listen to luisen for to long that ass reaver kills him and I wait through the whole game just to kill him.
Comment by anti-molyneux on 2 November 2008:
i want peter molyneux dead, The son of a bitch made me wait for 3 years 2 play a peice a shit game in which i finished in a day.
Comment by Michael r on 2 November 2008:
i thought i was the only one who thought this game was bad but i c im not.
Comment by Loco on 2 November 2008:
After seeing a lot of your comments I came to agree, the game was a big letdown, I expected a lot more for instance, for the game to have amour and a wider variety of weapons with more complex combat actions and a wider storyline. Lionhead really screwed it up, the game is hardly challenging and is so repetitive. Fable2 doesnt compare to Oblivion.
Good points are being able to purchase property, getting a wife, and the odd bit of humor here n there.
For most of you heavyweight gamers, id advise not to buy the game, but for you lightweights, sure try it out.
Comment by bbarley on 3 November 2008:
Fable 2 sucked fat donkey balls
I am so pissed off.
I am going to sell it today.
I cannot believe how easy/pointless this game was, and how bad the co-op sucked. I won’t say the reviewers lied, but they definitely “speculated” about game features that simply do not exist. I wanted to bone my friends wife in co-op, just like I read about at Gamespot, no dice.
Comment by vortex on 3 November 2008:
This game was such a HUGE letdown, i totally blame the media and reviewers, most of them gave such amazing reviews. sheesh what a waste. It was completely mediocre in most aspects, felt like a kiddie game in the end. makes me wish for an elder scrolls or a Witcher sequel. Now, THOSE were great rpg’s…
Comment by Phil on 4 November 2008:
It was a huge let down. Even the largest areas seem small. Limited enmities types to fight with few having any abilities that test your skills. only trouble i had was the ones that spam force push. Main story short very short for what I expect from a RPG. Side quest and side areas short and most had cheap rewards. Legendary weapons sux when you could just buy the best normal with slots to argument healing and more damage. Your Charter show no emotion at all and only a few cut-scenes that let you interact with the farts,dances ect that you can do. Online co-op you can’t even use your charter. wtf the point it i cant use my earned weapons and clothes. The Dog justs fails. only good to complete one quest line that “if” you save him with your wish. The good points are the good/evil choices that contribute to your looks and the way people act toward you and the prices of items. Really should have guessed this when I pre-ordered and found the bug in the pub-games. All in all It a playable game that wound have been funner if there wasn’t such a hype and i didn’t pay full-price for.
Comment by fukh8ers on 4 November 2008:
u guys need to stop nit picking and just enjoy the damn game. if ur gonna sit here and complain get off ur ass and make a better game if ur so damn smart
Comment by Max Bell on 4 November 2008:
Suck a dick whoever wrote this article
ur a dirty gamer anyway and you definetly dont have a wife
who would play video games whenever there this old anyway
why dont you be a real man and do something with your life apart from abuse games on the internet
the game was fucking fun anyway
so much fun infact
cool people here
definetly have social lives
Comment by Imbros on 4 November 2008:
I love the game, you have no idea what you’re talking about. This badly written blog entry sucks big balls! Idiot!
Comment by omfg on 4 November 2008:
ur all just haters
Comment by Havent played yet but on 4 November 2008:
I’ve got to say, from what I’m hearing Fable 2 is going to be a bit more of a trick then a treat. (Released in October, seems fitting) There are two main points I think Peter M and his friends at Lionhead could learn from some of the other huge game makers that make sequels and actually know how to really make them fly.
1. DONT FRIGGIN TOUCH THE GAME MECHANICS WHEN THINGS ALREADY WORK!! AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGG! NO MINIMAP? At least let us CHOOSE if we want to use one or not! AD BUT DO NOT SUBTRACT!!! ONLY TAKE AWAY THE THINGS THAT TRULY SUCK! Also, I don’t think I’m alone by a long shot when I say that after the initial learning curve of getting used to the combat system in Fable 1 I ACTUALY REALLY ENJOYED USING IT! It was innovative and a different style of combat then we were used to which made it uniquely Fable! If you think about it, it was well balanced between magic and combat on each trigger. It was embraced, no matter how much the conventional gamers wanted to be able to mash their way through without any skill. Peter M should have payed more attention to his initial instincts and said to hell with the whiners who always just want the same cookie cutter button mashing experience every time. This is Fable, and as such it is unique, which is what we love! Also, myself being a huge fan of using magic in games, I actually invested a lot of time into Fable 1 in not only the side missions and finding all the items before moving on to complete it (which made for a very powerful and rewarding experience as you would work very hard to level up everything–also had TLC which made quite a difference as far as missions) and DID NOT find it to be a short game at all. There were so many strategies you could use with the magic in Fable 1 to fight off the baddies and the quick way you could interchange spells and use them instantly (WITH a mana bar which you also had to work dillegently to improve I might ad) ONCE YOU HAD EARNED THEM AND LEGITIMATELY LEVELED THEM UP it made for a fantastic combination of magic, might and skill (AND THERE WERE A LOT OF SPELLS! only 8 spells this time? What a load!) and the moral overtone of the entire game just made it that much more original and innovative for a game at that time.
2. IMPROVE THE THINGS THAT DO WORK!! Create MORE SPELLS not less, Create MORE ARMOR dont just give us a bunch of lame costumes INSTEAD OF ARMOR that dont really do anything except make your main character look like a dork! Keep the awesome menu system but IMPROVE ON IT! Give us a dog if you must, but let us CHOOSE to keep it or give it away and let us CHOOSE TO USE A FRIGGIN MINIMAP IF WE WANT TO! SETTINGS MAN, SETTINGS! I mean cmon! How long will it be before game makers finaly figure out that we want CHOICE!!! GIVE US BOTH! That way the purists will be happy without the maps or on screen displays and us control freaks will be happy being able to monitor everything. SHEESH!
On the flip side, I actually do like the idea of Fable 2 being different then its predicessor in some ways. I cant really explain how, but I think I’m still going to give it a whirl. It might still make for a rewarding experience somehow. I think change can be good in some ways, and hopefully by Fable 3 Lionhead and Peter will have this whole thing about making the game dumber then the original sorted out.
And, in the words of Forrest Gump (another awesome little fable of sorts) that is all I have to say about that. FOR NOW! Sorry for being so long winded, but I’ve been holding this in for a long time as I think you people can see.
Comment by Flyingwhale on 5 November 2008:
This game was good for a few laughs like murdering your 2nd hooker wife and wondering why your son is black when you and your wife aren’t black. (Dam women cheated on me when I was on a Quest probably)
BUT, this game was a pretty big let down one of the biggest things for me was their is no consequence to dying really….all you get is a scar and keep fighting big deal. The game is so easy I didn’t mind the golden trail but the fact you always follow a path you can’t really venture anywhere else (even though the back of the box says you can). I find myself having difficulty having trouble to jump over a fence or move around a log slightly off the path.
The biggest thing to me was the multiplayer so bad, the multiplayer was the only reason I bought the game. Reason’s why the multiplayer is bad.
1) One camera for both players..I can’t see what i’m doing cause the camera isn’t in the house yet and the other person is outside the house. I can’t run here cause the other guy is dancing or farting in a corner!
2) Whenever you press start it pauses the game for both players which is a huge piss off when your playing online. Other player decided to be a blacksmith for 10 minutes and I was stuck watching him.
3) Lag I am beating the crap out of some monster and he isn’t dying or fighting back, because on the creature isn’t actually there but it won’t process on my screen.
4) Glitches with the update for the online multiplayer. This has been a huge problem for a few people playing fable where your game will just freeze and there’s nothing you can do no matter how many times you reload it. You have to delete the patch and for some people this doesn’t even work. It happened to me was on my way to get a corpse head for my future zombie wife, but then FREEZE. After a frantic turning on and off my 360 and swearing I gave up. Later to find out two of my friends were having the same problem and they told me how to fix it.
5) Final Boss??? What final boss?? I pressed A and won… AHHHHH A MUSIC BOX!?!? MY POWERS?!? honestly….
Comment by candace on 5 November 2008:
I agree with everyone to a degree. The ending disapoints and after, I kept waiting for huge quests to make up for it. They didn’t happen. Plus, the end dialogue implies that more stuff will happen between the heroes and that maybe theresa is evil? I had hopes, but now think they’re just setting up fable 3 or some expensive future expansion pack. However like the one positive post, this game was perfect for my gameplay. I am an idiot when it comes to directions and complicated triggerplay and I loathe the complicated weapon swap and panels on many rpg games because of it. Maybe Lionhead studio’s mistake was advertising all things for all players–they should have just said Fable 2 so uncomplicated your videogame hating mama can play it(and mine does):)
Comment by Syclone1436 on 5 November 2008:
Wow that ending just pissed me off…One shot and game over. Jack of Blades was a better last boss. roflmao! The strategy guide says the last boss only has 7000HP. WTF! You could beat this game with the rusty sword and pistol.
Comment by josh on 5 November 2008:
I have to say that I totally disagree with you on a lot of what you have put here. I think the golden trail is a little silly, but you can turn it off, so don’t complain about an option that you don’t have to use. The economy was done fairly well, you buy things and a town will prosper, you steal and its economy will start to suffer, your actions have a direct effect on the money you make and on the money you spend. The world was beautiful, graphics were done well and the whole feel of the universe has a very “fairy tale” feel to it, and that’s the point. Moral decision have a huge meaning. they were very black and white, like you said, and I wish they would have gotten a little more in-depth with that. But they do change the game play significantly. Lastly, I thought the dog was over hyped, but it was still a great in-game companion. He(or she) didn’t effect the outcome of battles but still played a part in it…good stuff. Sorry you don’t know good games man. I bet you hate BioShock, Gears, and Mass Effect too right?
Comment by Jax on 5 November 2008:
I f*cking hate the motherf*cking b*tch ending
The game was rushed I think, because gay peter wanted it to come out by fall so that he would make more money. On other forums people (little gay kids) are screaming how good the ending was and that it would be a perfect ending for DLC, uhm question little gay kids, since when is a gamer content with a lame ass ending because of the reason there is DLC these days? Yay we get to pay more money for a whole game, freakin 60 bucks for the game another 800 gamerpoints or something for 2 added quests and a horse armor(uhm okay) so we finally can defeat lucien’s dragon form…
I only liked one thing about the ending and that was before I knew the real ending and that was that Kreia took over the tower, I expected her to be the main badgirl but noooooooooooo she just stays there masturbating whole day
Fuck it i hated fable II
Comment by Jax on 5 November 2008:
well thats not true i dont hate it, the ending is just lame
Comment by Nick on 5 November 2008:
I don’t see what you are all complaining about. I personally think the ending was pretty well done - Afterall, Lucien wasn’t a Hero, he was just a normal man with no special powers. Fair enough, the dog wasn’t as good as I thought it would be (I wish I chose the sacrafice or wealth ending now) but it’s pretty helpful when it comes to making money. The combat was simple, but that’s how it was meant to be. I enjoyed it, especially them power attacks. People that are complaining about the main quest being too short: Fable II wasn’t designed for you hardcore gamers, it was designed for people who like to piss about, and go at their own pace. The moral choices were pretty good too. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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Comment by UMMX on 5 November 2008:
I hate to say this but Fable 2 does suck. I finally found the prefect wife in the game and i decide to have kids with her. SO as soon as we get up to 3 kids, I decide to save the game and go to bed. BUT AS SOON AS I GET UP THE NEXT MORINING ALL MY KIDS WHERE GONE!!!
AND MY WIFE ACT’S LIKE NOTHING HAS HAPPEN!!! WHERE DID MY KIDS GO? BUT GUESS WHAT I FOUND THEM OUT SIDE THE GATE WITH THE BABY ICON MISSING!!!
HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU TAKE AWAY SOMEONE KIDS AFTER SPEND TIME WITH THEM!!
Comment by Syclone1436 on 5 November 2008:
Sorry Josh you can’t compare this game to Bioshock, Mass Effect or Gears of War. Those games are incredible to say the least. I say Fable>Fable 2 by a long shot. I loved Fable and couldn’t wait for Fable 2 to come out but it had all the downfalls of Fable plus more! If they make a Fable 3 I will be renting it instead of wasting 60 bucks. Everyone has their own opinion but honestly for all the hype this game had it just didn’t live up to it.
Comment by ScubaSteve on 5 November 2008:
Fable 2 was pretty bad, but then again I just turned 25 this past summer and I probably shouldn’t even be playing video games anymore. Then again I was a little kid when the first mario games came out, so playing video games has been a favorite past time for at least the past 15 years, kind of hard kill that habit. So from mario to Fable 2, yeah fable looks great. Now if I was younger and my first games were Halo 1 or something along those lines, then of course Fable 1 and 2 would be complete crap in my mind (which they are). Games that are super hyped up will continue to satisfy the masses and piss of the rest of us. Simple math, crap game/super hyped/less expeirenced players = a nice chunk of change for Peter Moneybags and very few complaints from the newbies.
Comment by blahde on 5 November 2008:
It does have its bad points to be sure, just as a lot of games (including the beloved oblivion) do. I’ll just follow your ten to make it easy on me
1. Load screens are perfectly normal - I can’t think of many RPG’s without them - in fact i can’t think of one off the top of my head. erm, you can go ‘cross country’ - in fact you have to if you want to complete all of the missions (gargoyle etc)
2. fuck yes, those jobs REALLY dissapointed me. They were handy at the start of the game for money but not worth it.
3. yup, mini maps are needed really. It does encourage you to wander about a bit but sometimes finding a particular shop was a pain in the arse.
4. Missions: I think we were playing different fable 2s here, I thought the missions were fun and the some of the stories were ace. I don’t know how many side quests you played though.
4. The moral aspect… I won’t spoiler it but basically there’s one point where you can go extreme evil or extreme bad and from there on it’ll be pretty tough to go back the other way. I was about as good as you can be and I’d killed people and stole etc. However your actions do have a large effect on the communities. Try playing as good and evil and you’ll see what i mean.
6. Golden trail: Turn it off if you don’t like it (?)
7. Ok it’s kinda corny but I loved the dog, sometimes it becomes annoying when you’re stood right in front of the treasure chest but I never wanted to throw the game out of the window because of it.
8. Economy: as mentioned previously - it does have a huge effect within the game. As you said, for whatever reasons, you decided to rush through the game and you consequently missed out on parts of the game.
9. All I can really think is that you were so determined to dislike the game that every part of it became annoying to you. Personally the fighting was much like other games, I enjoyed the magic part and leveling up. If your going for loads of XP you also have to time things so you can soak it up before it dissapears. But it could just be that it didn’t appeal to you, fair enough, I hate 1st person shooters…
10. I was expecting a lot more of a fight which was a big dissapointment but in some ways I loved it. At this point there’s just Lucien and if you read things you’re given and listen to the story-line he’s not some monster. For people who got caught up in the game the decision was a tough one for others I can imagine it was banal. I’m enjoying that there are missions after the main game ends.
Basically there are things I would love to be changed but I throughly enjoyed playing the game. I’ll also be looking forward to fable 3. I’m a huge RPG fan and this was light but enjoyable, the various moral and economic aspects added a nice depth to the game for me. This is definitely not a game to rush through to the end of, I can see why you found it so dissapointing having done just that.
One thing you didn’t really mention that I hated was the character - there is just no way to make the fucker pretty. The face was fine but I looked like a butch dyke the whole way through despite having no fat and concentrating on skill and will
PS: if anyone actually bothered to read my whole post - congratulations!!
Comment by bmp on 6 November 2008:
yeah well, diss it all you want, other people still like the fable universe, its just not your type of game, so there is really no reason to attack the makers like that, doesnt show much character. im sure you’s have horns and be surrounded by flies if you were part of fable 1. but oh well, its your opinion and your entitled to it, even though nobody cares.
Comment by Chris Reynolds on 6 November 2008:
I’m glad someone else said it, because this game was an epic fail. It’s really too bad, because I was really holding out for something awesome.
Comment by awwgoddammit on 6 November 2008:
I was hoping for something even better than or at least on par with Oblivion. No such luck. I don’t think I’ve ever regretted buying a game more than Fable 2. I’ll be pretty cautious before buying another Molyneux game.
Spend your $60 on toilet paper - at least you can successfully wipe your arse with it when you’re done!
Comment by Nick on 6 November 2008:
I still don’t see what’s so bad about this game. I loved it, and still am. I don’t see why people are whinging about the glitches - It’s a new game, it is expected. That’s why they bring out patches. You can’t expect every new game to be bug-free, do you? And, awwgoddammit, how the fuck can you expect Fable to be on par with Oblivion? They are completly differnt.
All in all, I think that there are more pros than cons in Fable II, thus it does *not* suck.
Comment by Dafty Duck on 6 November 2008:
Fable 2 was a huge con, it was sold as being a deep and involving experience. I’ve met pools of vomit with more depth and character.
Game is buggy, combat is dull, it’s too short, jobs are boring, combat is dull, unlimited magic, same enemy types as before, combat is dull, small areas, the dog sucked ass, oh and the combat is dull. ARGHHHH!!!! Must mash button, wait, I need magic! ARGHHHH! mash other button until you slip into a coma and die.
Sorry, not good enough, I bought this game then traded it in 4 days later, I lost £8 on it, that’s £8 I could have spent on Guinness and curry, it would have been more fun and have lasted longer.
WTF are people defending this sack of rancid horse shit for? Some of the game stores near me have stopped accepting copies back in for trade in or exchange they have that many.
OMGZ! I nearly forgot the end boss and ending………….those who completed the game will agree with a big hearty, F**K YOU LIONHEAD YOU LAME ASS F**KS!!!
Comment by Syclone1436 on 7 November 2008:
Nicely put Dafty Duck!
Comment by SpunkMonkey on 7 November 2008:
I can understand why there are many negative comments about this game as i imagine most of you are hardcore rpg gamers and disappointed by the games overall depth. On the other hand I agree with nervouswreck, Fable 2 cannot be compared to Oblivion!!!! they are focused in selling to COMPLETELY different people ie Oblivion is for hardcore gamers and Fable 2 is for casual gamers. So for any gamer who DOES’NT massacre a game within 12 or so hours this game is for you!
By the way Number 3 on your list is absolutely pathetic! Ok no minimap but you REALLY had difficulty with the pause menu map??? That makes me wonder why you should be critising anything at all!! Apart from number 10 on your list (which is spot on) this list is truly made by someone who spends way too long on his xbox 360 and is just way too picky!
Get some fresh air guy!! lol
Comment by jordan sims on 7 November 2008:
U DONT KNOW WAT U ARE TALKING ABOUT U PATHETIC LOSER!
U PROLLY LIKE FUCKING CALL OF DUTY 4 ASWELL U SAD, PATHETIC MOTHERFUCKING BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MUCH LOVE
Comment by Dafty Duck on 7 November 2008:
To above,
You sir are the love child of a sperm donar and a turkey baster. The sperm donar was probably a retarded waster who loved nothing more than to shoot his hot salty man muck into little plastic jars for a living because it’s all his pathetic excuse for genes had allowed him to do with his life.
p.s. NO NEED TO SHOUT YOU TOOL!!!
Dont feed the trolls…………….
Comment by Nick Halstead on 7 November 2008:
Dafty, Jordan and others, your all f*cking brilliant, best set of rants I have seen in a long time. You all make me think I should start a dedicated gaming blog as you really are all so passionate about this, (as I suppose I am).
Peace, Love, and whatever you lot are smoking.
Comment by Dafty Duck on 7 November 2008:
I aim to please, unlike the father of the unfortunate miscreant who has the written type form of Tourret’s syndrome.
Comment by Jack Off on 7 November 2008:
i liked fable.
Comment by Dafty Duck on 7 November 2008:
I like picking up prostitutes in my car to replen my health and then beat them to death for fun.
Comment by Syclone1436 on 7 November 2008:
Ok for those that say this game shouldn’t be compared to Oblivion. Fair enough. Lets compare it to another action adventure game that actually worked. Oh wait it was for the Wii and Gamecube but still blew Fable 2 out of the water! The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess. I might get flamed for that comment but I think thats a fair comparison.
Your thoughts?
Comment by Dafty Duck on 7 November 2008:
No flame here good sir I think the game you mention was better than the festering sore on a lepers penis that was foible 2 in every way shape and form. You probably picked what may have been the best game to compare Foible 2 to. Zelda had less features, the graphics engine was inferior, the hardware used was a bit, well, shit compared to the xbox 360. Somehow though the whole was greater than the sum of the parts unlike Foible 2 which got confused and thought that two positives made a negative as opposed to vice versa; DOH!
Also Zelda felt worth it’s price and did not leave me feeling like I had been the victim of a drive by arse fisting by Peter M and his merry crew of arse bandits.
Comment by Dafty Duck on 7 November 2008:
I cant edit and add this in but picture this if you will.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fmLXI6uZELg
PM is the guy in red, Im the last guy in blue…………..if only this could be true.
Comment by ASDF on 7 November 2008:
What’s the point of having the Three heroes you had to meet to beat Lucien when you just use a God damn music box to take away his powers. And just blow his nuts away with a fucking gun. Also, he takes the Three heroes and using their powers - making you think you’re going to fight something big. But you just take all of that away with a bloody music box you bought for 5 gold. The only changes in the “Economy” were Bowerstone Old Town, Oakfield, and Westfield. I say, name a prostitute Peter Molyneux, have sex with her, then blow her tits off.
Comment by ASDF on 7 November 2008:
Westcliff*
Comment by Dafty Duck on 7 November 2008:
YAY! sounds ace, can we use a baseball bat on his anus first so he can see how it feels for a change?
Comment by ASDF on 7 November 2008:
Peter Molyneux should have let us choose to join Lucien and have a different story in the end. Owning the world or some other bloody bullshit. Fable 2 is just a disc with a character running around in circles in a gray box.
Comment by ASDF on 7 November 2008:
Dafty Duck, just use Hammer’s big fat ass. And her hammer.
Comment by ASDF on 7 November 2008:
Or you can use Fable 2, because it’s the biggest piece of shit you can find this year. Aside from what’s inside Peter M’s head.
Comment by Dafty Duck on 7 November 2008:
LOL, I thought there was some graphics error when I first came across Hammer before I figured out she was justa fat turd, I liked her less than Jar Jar Binks.
Comment by qwerty on 7 November 2008:
Rename everybody in every town, Peter. Then start a massacre. It might make you all feel better.
Comment by Dafty Duck on 7 November 2008:
That would involve playing the game, I slam dunked it like a dead hookers head into an exchange bin after 4 days. I just felt like venting my unrelenting fury in a format which plased me when I came on here. Though I know feel somewhat satisfied to find a group of like minded people who are not living in denial about being ripped of by PM and Lionhead.
You know the people I mean, yeah the ones on the LH forums who spend all day wanking baby gravy over the back of the Foible 2 box because it’s so much more awsome than the game will ever be all the while sitting with their fingers jammed up their flaring nostrils chanting “LAH LAH LAH All is well here in Albion.”.
Comment by Dafty Duck on 7 November 2008:
My god, so many typos in that last one……..sorry I got a bit excited………..mopping the mess off the keyboard now.
Comment by Dafty Duck on 7 November 2008:
LOLS Someone at the LH forums keeps deleting my posts, must not like what they hear.
Comment by Jen on 8 November 2008:
I was so excited to play this game and it was a huge let down, I will be thinking twice before I buy another Fable game. I honestly felt ripped off, it has such a short storyline and everything seemed disjointed. I also have to say that I hate the way my female character looked after she had aquired some abilities, she was just hideous.
It’s an insult to consumers when a game like this is released, it’s basically just an attempt to grab all the money that they can.
Comment by keith on 8 November 2008:
dude i love this post because i absolutely hate thie game with a passion not only is this more pathetic than the first fable but this time not only did pete over hype it so did i gn and every other respectable game site man i was so skeptical after playing fable 1 and being let down that i followed all the coverage and read the ratings before i bought it the game actually got a 8.8 i think it deserves a 5.2 ( by the way you failed to mention all the glitches this bastard game has) the only things i will tell u is that i should have listened to my gut for you see i found a live stream a this guy playing the game he worked in gamestop so he had it before hand and i watched him play it the night before it was released i was utterly unimpressed and was not going to get it but i talked myself into it thinking maybe he just sucks and played all the boring aspects of the game no fable and any other sequel they can make is shit on the 17th i am turning this game in and giving left 4 dead a try for now i will stick to my halo3 and xbox live for a descent game to pass my time
Comment by Yamam on 8 November 2008:
Its a solid game that is great for non gamers and first time players - little sisters and brothers, non-gamers. That’s about it
The huge hype hides the fact that the fable series has some great ideas and promises to game innovation but actually delivers very little - or is very disappointing in how its implemented.
So to judge fable 2 based on a more hardcore gamer’s point of view (with expectations of it being like Oblivion) is a bit like judging a FPS like CoD4 for lacking RPG qualities, there just isn’t any. Fable 2 is better off being marketed as a “Introductory game to a fantasy world action rpgish* which is more like a hack and slash game but with god mode firmly switched on” than as a serious RPG game that rivals Oblivion in scope and detail.
From what it does well however, Fable 2 is alright, its just a pity Peter Molyneux did not focus on Fable 2’s strength but lavished alot of hype on things gamers would love but ultimately did not feature in the game.
And for all those fanboys who claim Fable 2 will be GOTY, I actually feel sorry for you all.
Comment by Nick Halstead on 8 November 2008:
Keith,
I did have a whole range of glitches, but alas it seems the way these days that the games industry because they can now ‘patch’ even console games think it is acceptable to release something with this many problems, my dog for the last 3 levels was stuck on ‘Quest’ - but as he had been zero use for the previous levels I thought ‘I couldnt care less’ about fixing him.
Yaman, some fair points, but Peter Molyneux knows exactly what he is doing, he was selling this as a RPG - simple as that, the hardcore press also reviewed it from a hardcore point of view and the bastards didnt give it one single drubbing, shame on the lot of you.
I think I will have to do a follow up focusing on the reviewers, as I can think of 4 or 5 of the big review sites (cough, cough, gamespot, cough) that had an orgasm over this and should fucking well know better, but the fact is they are PAID to give these reviews, and know that next time round microsoft wouldnt give them any access if they dared to be HONEST.
dammit, this is turning into a post… must resist..
Again guys thanks for feedback,
Glad to see ‘fable 2 sucks’ I am still ranked NUMBER ONE, lolololol
Comment by flobber mcflobberty on 8 November 2008:
I dont think it even is that good for first time gamers, most people fart around with it for a bit then say ” I told you games were a waste of time”.
Now Geometry wars is an introductory game, my mates son is only 14 months old and he sits to attention at all the pretty colours.
Comment by Yamam on 8 November 2008:
Nick, to be fair anything Peter Molyneux says these days need to be scanned through with a bullshit meter first. I’m just getting weary of any claims he makes. But alright so he did market it as a rpg.
Well as for the reviewers, its hard to give a bad review for a game when most of the reviewers are rolling in Lionhead’s cash and promotion blitz. Majority of the mainstream reviewers, (don’t get me started on gamespot..after kane and lynch..i take their reviews with a pinch of salt) would need to pander to Fable 2 or risk ..losing out the ad campaigns/money/pay/coverage/first-up hands on from devs? Hate to imagine that is why Fable 2- to an outsider seems like the best and greatest game out..in the history of the world.
flobber, i just have seen alot of non-gamers choosing Fable 2 to play because of its simplicity and ease…well relatively compared to other games. Hell my younger sister actually asked for the game and asked me if I enjoyed it as much as her. I guess it varies will different people.
Comment by Flobber mcjobberty on 8 November 2008:
Wow, now I think im just more pissed at the people who reviews the game and made a decision not to tell me how sh*t it was. They should have a big god damn disclaimer on the front of these games saying “All reviews were payed for by Lionhead” and another one at the bottom that reads “For kids”.
Comment by Nick on 8 November 2008:
To the people who are complaining about the combat system - It much better than Oblivions. I just think all you people that are complaining are just dumb. Fair enough, Pete went a bit over the top, but it’s still a good, no, GREAT game.
And, Mr. Halstead, Pete was selling it off as an RPG - Because that’s exacly what it is.
Comment by Nick on 8 November 2008:
Oh yes, as for all the gliches… IT’S ONLY JUST COME OUT, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? Patches people, patches… =/
Comment by Syclone1436 on 8 November 2008:
Combat is not better than Oblivion. In Oblivion you have to be smart with your tactics not just run in and hack and slash. Unless you turn the difficulty way down. You can just sit there and charge up your level 5 spell on Fable 2 and kill anything that is attacking. I never even used half my spells more than once and kept the same sword and gun through most of the game becuase I didn’t NEED to upgrade. I even played through half the game before I even used the auguments. LOL
And you Fable lovers that think I am just bashing on Fable becuase I like Oblivion think agian. I LOVED the first Fable although it had some short comings itself. It just felt like the went backwards instead of forwards with the game. I mean most of the deamon doors were worthless. I would spend more time in them thinking there must be another chest around here somewhere!
Comment by Syclone1436 on 8 November 2008:
Oh and one more thing! (hehe) Did they just “Freshen up” the enemies from the last game? How creative is that? Oh look more Balverines oh and look at that the white one agian. . .Also those banshees were a joke. Once agian all you do is charge up your level 5 fire spell and then open fire with a pistol. Ok I am done ranting.
Comment by Nick on 8 November 2008:
Syclone - You don’t have to be smart to be good at Oblivion’s combat, even with the difficulty at normal. How come if I hit some goblin on the head with a mace, he doesn’t at least stagger? I agree, Fable’s combat is easy (I completed the game, bought Fairfax castle etc without using any auguments; I don’t know how to use them) but it’s combat is more fun.
I didn’t find anything wrong with the enemies…
Comment by VicLegacy on 8 November 2008:
I just completed Fable 2 and I have to say that this game was a disappointment. I truly enjoyed Fable 1, however Fable 2 was a bore… I fell asleep on it a couple of times.
I am not a hardcore gamer, but I am a fan of Fable 1. I really feel bad for my gf that got this game for me.
btw… gamespot.com is full of **** for giving this a high rating… NEVER AGAIN will I trust their ratings!!!!
Also… LMAO at UMMX posting:
Comment by UMMX on 5 November 2008:
I hate to say this but Fable 2 does suck. I finally found the prefect wife in the game and i decide to have kids with her. SO as soon as we get up to 3 kids, I decide to save the game and go to bed. BUT AS SOON AS I GET UP THE NEXT MORINING ALL MY KIDS WHERE GONE!!!
AND MY WIFE ACT’S LIKE NOTHING HAS HAPPEN!!! WHERE DID MY KIDS GO? BUT GUESS WHAT I FOUND THEM OUT SIDE THE GATE WITH THE BABY ICON MISSING!!!
HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU TAKE AWAY SOMEONE KIDS AFTER SPEND TIME WITH THEM!!
Comment by Flobber mcjobberty on 8 November 2008:
Nick, I lol @ you.
You dont sell someone a half finished product (which is what this is)
The amount of bugs are phenomenal, the product was rushed to completion without ever being finished off, would you accept a half cooked chicken?
Comment by Nick on 8 November 2008:
It’s not a half finished product. It’s a fairly big game, if you’re counting the side quests and whatnot. What wasn’t finished with it? :S
All hail Fable II.
Comment by Video6 on 9 November 2008:
They con’ed us! Fable 2 is just a piece of **** of a game!!! 60 bucks, my ass. I should be 40 bucks at most. Anyone wants to buy my Fable II Limited Edition? If so, please email me at enchauva@yahoo.com. Thanks
Comment by Jose on 9 November 2008:
I just finished the game 10 minutes ago (1 500 000 gold, beat the crucible record, did every non-repeatable sidequest, every repeatable sidequest at least once, have 3 wives, opened every demon door, beat the main quest, I’ve searched everywhere and it doesnt seem like a piece of property exists that I have not already purchased). I’m one of those few people that enjoyed Fable 1’s storyline and therefore I was very disappointed with shallow storyline that was offered by Fable 2. Seems that every major gaming website has given the game very high scores. This just shows that one cannot even rely on the gaming press to assist in making a worthwhile purchase.
Thanks for posting this article, at least I know that I’m not alone in being very disappointed with this game.
Comment by qwerty on 9 November 2008:
Let’s send Chuck Norris with a BB gun to LionHead Studios.
Comment by Daryl on 9 November 2008:
I think it is funny how the main character on the front of the box is made to look like link.
There is parasitic Microsoft again playing copy cat instead of making innovative ideas.
Comment by Yamam on 9 November 2008:
Nick..wait..its a fairly big game? No wonder oblivion went straight through your head…
“Oh yes, as for all the gliches… IT’S ONLY JUST COME OUT, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? Patches people, patches… =/”
Yeah one would expect some bugs and such, especially from a PM game..which is hyped up to be the 2nd coming of video games. yeah and when they do get a few patches out they will release a new Fable 2: Patched version like Fable Lost chapters for the PC, charging people $60 for 2 more hours of content…and still with some crippling game breaking bugs.
The combat was retarded in Fable 2, in the end there really isn’t much RPGing apart from being able to emote, run a superficial economy and have shallow npcs as wives. Sure you can immerse yourself easily in the world but ultimately when you can’t die from combat it sort of robs the game of any difficulty as well as mocking any RPG stat available-I mean whats the point of all the statistics and such when combat is so easy and simple? lets not start on magic in Fable 2…
As for comparing the combat to oblivion by stating that its much better, its 2 completely different games mate..Fable 2 should be instead compared to other aRPGs, God of War, even the Zelda series for gods sake.
Fable 2 is flawed, but mix in the hype its pretty much clear the game falls a fair way from what was promised. Once again i repeat its a good solid game for non-gamers to get into arpging as it can be played with minimal skills or attention to detail, but a great game? There’s nothing to hail about fable 2 except maybe how Peter Molyneux has talked the talk but didn’t walk the walk…again.
Comment by bmp on 9 November 2008:
ok do you all really have nothing better to do than to sit here and complain? if you dont like that game done fucking play it. damn dont ruin it for other people who might like it. but sitting here talking about wanting to kill the guy who made the game, how fucking childish! ITS A GAME! GET OVER IT, NOTHING IS PERFECT OR EVEN CLOSE!!! damn i hate morons!!!!!
Comment by Mokuli on 9 November 2008:
Wow…..This game was such a huge letdown. I have beaten the game 3 times so far and I am not impressed with the difficulty of any of the three trees. The only way to make the game challenging is to just not upgrade your toughness at all. The Demon Door rewards are laughable at best and after opening the first one you don’t even want to open the rest of them. They are a waste of time and effort to open and one of the doors requires you to learn a crap load of expressions that can only be obtained by books and half the time you can’t even get them. The slver keys in this one are just not worth collecting every chest i have opened i have just been disappointed time and time again. The whole hype about your choices changing the world is so freaking over hyped it’s ridiculous. You can actually count the things you can actually affect on one hand and its being a 5 hour game all the way through the truth of the game starts to shine. Westcliff,temple of light, and Bowerstone old town is the only places I have found that you could actually change them somewhat and its just a decorative change really nothing major at all. Your kids never grow up so there always annoying as hell and if that’s not bad enough you have to go back home like every hour to keep your wife happy. Diversity of enemy AI is horrible you can count what you have to fight on almost one hand. Balverines,Humans,Beatles,hobbes, and trolls. Congrats Peter for another lame game for the masses who went out and bought this game I truly do feel your pain at 60 bucks a pop for such a lame ass coaster. Id rather just buy crack than play rpgs nowadays. Final Fantasy 7 and xenogears didn’t rely on graphics to get people to buy them it was the gameplay and storyline and Fable 2 does not deliver anything but a huge letdown.
Comment by Yamam on 9 November 2008:
So…bmp..in a perfect world there shouldn’t be reviewers who do negative reviews? because it ruins the game for people? or because this article touched upon a sensitive issue for yourself? hmm sometimes we reach a stage in our lives where we find out that not everything is perfect and being deluded about one game ie being a fanboy is not beneficial for your health.
Comment by Mokuli on 9 November 2008:
Well I can tell you this the game truly HAD Potential and sadly like every game peter lets out something happens and it always turns out to be a suck fest lol
Comment by Fable 1 was alot better than 2 on 9 November 2008:
Fable 2, short story, dont care thats fine, lots of game has short story but the storyline sucked. I would rather perfer the 1st Fable’s story with Jack of blades and stuff. Maybe 200yrs later of the story would be cool but 500 yrs… and whats the deal with guns? If u get guns theres really no need to even make any other weapons or armor which btw gets the customization out of the way. I no, i no, 500yrs later=no more armor producing but wtf, theres a freaking sword with little magic shock on it and theres no armor? I mean it still a fantasy game. If it would gone totally realistic they should just have guns and little machetties.
anyways i hope it comes out for pc soon, cus soon after that modders and mods=amazingly more fun. Oh btw, Lucian was totally the worst boss of the century, even Jack of Blades was stornger than him and Jacks really weak but his got a really sinister voice.
Comment by bmp on 9 November 2008:
ok, well you see, there is a difference between doing a review and just being a douchebag. nicks first post, was an actual review, everyone elses is just fucking complaining. like i said, if you dont like it dont play it. its simple as that, and it really is childish to talk about killing really is just stupid. oh and Yamam, dont ever fucking call me a deluded fanboy. i just hate morons who think you can compare one game to another, when those two games are nothing alike. i mean, yeah i agree fable 2 has its flaws, all games do. this article did touch on a sensitive issue for me, and it has nothing to do with the game jackass. i just hate when people sit here and complain about a game they dont like. it doesnt help anything unless you complain to the makers. i could sit here and complain all day about need for speed carbon, but im not because i know its hard making games. so seriously get your facts straight before you attack me calling me a fanboy. i totaly agree with what most of these earlier posts said, except with how their going about it. complain to lionhead, this site isnt getting you anywhere.
Comment by bmp on 9 November 2008:
oh and excuse me, didnt realize that the actual review was not done by nick, (at least i dont think) so sorry, just thought id point that out.
Comment by bmp on 9 November 2008:
oh and one more thing Yamam, i never said anything about perfect worlds, i said nothing is perfect or even close. which means that there is nothing that is perfect. so dont put words in my mouth.
Comment by Yamam on 9 November 2008:
Did I compare two games which are different together? hence i said fable 2 should be judged based on other arpg not oblivion.
And so…when somebody has negative things to say about a game there are automatically a douchebag? Ok right. edit: Oh I see now, but then you see Fable 2 promised so much yet delivered so little, thats why alot of people are annoyed not to mention I still think its marketed wrongly.
Alright so you just have issues in general with people doing nthing all day on the net except complain?…well thats fien then glad to clear that up, sorry to call you a fanboy (fable 2 fanboys really grate me)
Comment by Sid Vicious on 9 November 2008:
Fable II has a fine storyline only problem was the fucked up ending.
After theresea said “the spire is mine” i thought there would be a glorious battle but in the end nothing fukn happens. Compat system… iw as happy with that oblivion gives you more options immobilize etc.
ur childrend ot grow up that was a shame imagine a father son combo
taking on lucien. The enemies were really really poor needs to be mroe variety the trolls were good, but tahts abt it.
Final Fantasy destroys this game FF is theg reatest RPG game of all time.
FF8 wata storyline that had amazing DIABLO Guardian gorce. FF12 same thing amazing cut scenes.
Comment by Runny poopy pants on 9 November 2008:
Eh? Did you pay attention to the story? the game couldnt have felt more rushed if they tried, bugs apparently in the hundreds, they sold as a Beta for christs sake. Lets not even get started on all the stuff that was missing and that piece of crap co-op.
Comment by Nick Halstead on 9 November 2008:
I think in general everyone can agree that the game was a massive let down, all the comments in regard to ‘it could have been’ I am also in agreement with, so much missed opportunity in amongst the occasional highlight.
Mokuli, forgot about the demon doors, that pain was too much and obviously wiped it from my memory (arrrgghhhhh, the pain…) - nuff said.
But as some of you have chanted ‘fallout 3, fallout 3′ - I am 50% through the main storyline but have spent soooo many hours wandering the wasteland picking up random tasks and in general pottering about finding things and just revelling in the sheer openness and scale, but before I gush too much I will save it for another review (a proper one this time).
Oh, and bring on Diablo 3.. oh and WoW expansion is in the post to me, god I better get on with building this game site.
Comment by Nick on 9 November 2008:
You either love it or you hate it. I love it. It seems you lot hate it, which is fair enough. But, instead of whining about how bad this game is (cough?) why don’t you just get a new one?
Comment by Yamam on 9 November 2008:
Can do can do..fallout 3:)already 120 hours not started main quest:P
Comment by bmp on 9 November 2008:
ok, well you all make valid points, but now your just repeating the same thing over and over…..oh and how do i get this site to stop sending me emails about posts……..thats why keep commenting……